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Dad beats his daughter's molester to death
Topic Started: Sep 17 2013, 09:56 AM (1,643 Views)
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All of the reports say that the father is a generally peaceful man who has great remorse for killing Flores.

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes, "There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man."
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I am guilty sorry everyone. RIP Emile Griffith. Jeremy Kyle is a prick. go make sumin of urself

Having remorse doesn't mean he's a peaceful man in his everyday life.

Well anyway I still wonder how the kid is. And there's the family of the guy killed too, for all I know he could have been someone they lean on or something.
“Making weed illegal is a little bit paranoid, don’t you think? It’s like saying God made a mistake, you know what I mean? It’s like, you’ve got the whole world and Earth and all its holy creations, right? And God is like, Hmm, lookit, my whole world in all its holy ways, and he’s like, Oh-my-me-oh-sh**, I left weed in here. Yeah right, I left weed in here. Oh, shouldn’t have smoked that joint on the third day.”
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Having remorse means he is a reasonably well adjusted human being, and most well adjusted human beings have a gentle nature. Otherwise, there would be much more violence in the world.
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I am guilty sorry everyone. RIP Emile Griffith. Jeremy Kyle is a prick. go make sumin of urself

Not really. Lots of violent people would be remorseful if they killed someone, but still be violent on a day to day basis. Not every violent person wants to kill people. Also he could be a good person at heart but have an anger or drug problem that makes him be violent in front of his daughter.
“Making weed illegal is a little bit paranoid, don’t you think? It’s like saying God made a mistake, you know what I mean? It’s like, you’ve got the whole world and Earth and all its holy creations, right? And God is like, Hmm, lookit, my whole world in all its holy ways, and he’s like, Oh-my-me-oh-sh**, I left weed in here. Yeah right, I left weed in here. Oh, shouldn’t have smoked that joint on the third day.”
-Nick Diaz, MMA hero - more quotes- http://www.mmasentinel.com/2011/10/the-best-nick-diaz-quotes/
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Wow Wow Wow, let's slow it down. All we know is that this dude feels bad for killing the guy. Nothing about drugs or anger issues.
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daman
Sep 17 2013, 09:43 PM
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Sep 17 2013, 09:30 PM
If they had found him guilty, I woulda been pretty mad about it. If someone is even trying to rob your house, you should be allowed to kill them in my opinion. If you are committing any crime, you deserve zero protection, and you deserve anything that happens to you. Of course torturing would be not what I am getting at, but I mean beaten until you are unconcious or fattally shot.

@unclegoten, if you saw someone in your house and he had a gun, you would beat him until he is unconcious if you could. You might even shoot him if you had a gun as well.
So your possessions are more important than a human life? If you're going to stand by and allow society to so warped that (mostly young) people are led towards criminal acts then you have no right to kill someone for committing those crimes when you earlier on ignored your responsibility as a citizen of your society to make sure people are looked after.

And how about all the people that commit so-called "White Collar" crimes? I suppose they deserve to get away with their crimes? And should kids who bully other kids in school be beaten to death now too?

And I suppose it's okay to beat to death g.ay people in places where being g.ay is illegal too. Because the law is absolute and consistent across the world and always decided upon for the good of the general public? Right.
I'm talking about if they were armed, yes I would try to take them down. I wouldn't beat them to death if I caught them, but if they were in my house and I could smack them with a baseball bat, of course I would. They are commuting a crime trying to steal my things while armed, why should I not hurt them?

and btw, the molester would have gone to jail and then the inmates would have probably beaten him/killed him for what he did. I doubt that even prisoners would molest a child.

I really don't understand how you went from "robbing" to killing g.ay people for being g.ay. wtf

Lastly, I do admit me saying killing a robber was wrong, but saying that it is MY or anyone elses responsibility to make sure people don't become drug addicts and become criminals. That is ridiculous. They commit a crime, now we should find them not guilty because they went with the wrong crowd? please.
Why won't it let me use the word "g.ay" I cant post if its in my post how do I bypass?
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I am guilty sorry everyone. RIP Emile Griffith. Jeremy Kyle is a prick. go make sumin of urself

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Sep 19 2013, 09:22 PM
Wow Wow Wow, let's slow it down. All we know is that this dude feels bad for killing the guy. Nothing about drugs or anger issues.
I'm not disputing whether he feels bad whatsoever. I was wondering how the daughter feels after what happened, and then I was mentioning that it may have been shocking for her to see a violent side of her father if she hadn't seen it before, and then we just ended up in a little discussion about how likely it is he could be a violent person on a day to day basis. I am not accusing him of being someone like that, I'm just putting it out there as a possibility. It doesn't have anything to do with the murder's motive or anything, it's just to do with how much his actions will effect his daughter's image of him.
“Making weed illegal is a little bit paranoid, don’t you think? It’s like saying God made a mistake, you know what I mean? It’s like, you’ve got the whole world and Earth and all its holy creations, right? And God is like, Hmm, lookit, my whole world in all its holy ways, and he’s like, Oh-my-me-oh-sh**, I left weed in here. Yeah right, I left weed in here. Oh, shouldn’t have smoked that joint on the third day.”
-Nick Diaz, MMA hero - more quotes- http://www.mmasentinel.com/2011/10/the-best-nick-diaz-quotes/
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I am guilty sorry everyone. RIP Emile Griffith. Jeremy Kyle is a prick. go make sumin of urself

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Sep 19 2013, 09:27 PM
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If they had found him guilty, I woulda been pretty mad about it. If someone is even trying to rob your house, you should be allowed to kill them in my opinion. If you are committing any crime, you deserve zero protection, and you deserve anything that happens to you. Of course torturing would be not what I am getting at, but I mean beaten until you are unconcious or fattally shot.

@unclegoten, if you saw someone in your house and he had a gun, you would beat him until he is unconcious if you could. You might even shoot him if you had a gun as well.
So your possessions are more important than a human life? If you're going to stand by and allow society to so warped that (mostly young) people are led towards criminal acts then you have no right to kill someone for committing those crimes when you earlier on ignored your responsibility as a citizen of your society to make sure people are looked after.

And how about all the people that commit so-called "White Collar" crimes? I suppose they deserve to get away with their crimes? And should kids who bully other kids in school be beaten to death now too?

And I suppose it's okay to beat to death g.ay people in places where being g.ay is illegal too. Because the law is absolute and consistent across the world and always decided upon for the good of the general public? Right.
I'm talking about if they were armed, yes I would try to take them down. I wouldn't beat them to death if I caught them, but if they were in my house and I could smack them with a baseball bat, of course I would. They are commuting a crime trying to steal my things while armed, why should I not hurt them?

and btw, the molester would have gone to jail and then the inmates would have probably beaten him/killed him for what he did. I doubt that even prisoners would molest a child.

I really don't understand how you went from "robbing" to killing g.ay people for being g.ay. wtf

Lastly, I do admit me saying killing a robber was wrong, but saying that it is MY or anyone elses responsibility to make sure people don't become drug addicts and become criminals. That is ridiculous. They commit a crime, now we should find them not guilty because they went with the wrong crowd? please.
Why won't it let me use the word "g.ay" I cant post if its in my post how do I bypass?
The gay think was in response you saying that if you commit any crime you are fair game to be killed because you forfeit your rights. In some countries being gay is a crime, so I was saying is it then ok to kill a person for being gay in those countries? Basically my overall point was that the law is not perfect as it changes heavily from country to country and from time to time.

The part about responsibility: you pay taxes and support the government and its institutions who often do a poor job of helping young people set up in life by having policies and laws that facilitate moving towards crime (eg- poor schooling in different areas, long prison sentences for long crimes, eroding worker rights leading to lower pay or more stress in children's households (as in if you're pissed off from work you might just go home and be a major di** to your kids)). Therefore you are implicit and if you are part of the cause you should also be part of the solution. I'm not saying you should find them not guilty, I'm saying that instead of killing them or just leaving them to continue to mentally wither away and never reform you should be in favour of helping as much as possible (not necessarily you directly helping, more likely someone more qualified who is hired by the government to work in prison) rather than giving them a life sentence or killing them.

You click "continue" to bypass it.
“Making weed illegal is a little bit paranoid, don’t you think? It’s like saying God made a mistake, you know what I mean? It’s like, you’ve got the whole world and Earth and all its holy creations, right? And God is like, Hmm, lookit, my whole world in all its holy ways, and he’s like, Oh-my-me-oh-sh**, I left weed in here. Yeah right, I left weed in here. Oh, shouldn’t have smoked that joint on the third day.”
-Nick Diaz, MMA hero - more quotes- http://www.mmasentinel.com/2011/10/the-best-nick-diaz-quotes/
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